Trustees in Bankruptcy are very cynical about articles in the media about bankruptcy. In most cases the articles have glaring errors. In the few instances where we find a well researched and even handed story we are very pleased — and surprised. An article that appeared on May 8, 2006 in The Province, a daily newspaper in Vancouver, was particularly bad. The only excuse there is in this Internet age, for not having a well researched article, is apathy and/or laziness. This article prompted me to write a letter to the editor.
May 9, 2006.
To the Editor of the Province
Re: The article by Inez Dyer published in the Province on May 8, 2006 entitled Bankruptcy is the last resort
I am writing to complain of the disservice the captioned article did for people facing severe financial difficulty and looking for solutions. Most people trust the information published in newspapers and accept articles as containing accurate and authorative information. The article by Inez Dyer betrayed that trust by presenting an article that was poorly researched and rife with misinformation and errors.
My comments on the article are as follows:
ERROR #1: Province article, paragraph # 2: “While the bankruptcy is discharged in as little as nine months, the hit to your credit lasts seven agonizing years.”
This is a correct statement but is NOT even handed as the author fails to point out that the person facing bankruptcy no doubt has such poor credit that their credit rating is already as bad as it can get. Bankruptcy will not make it worse.
ERROR #2: Province article, paragraph # 3: “During that time, no bank, credit-card or finance company will be willing to extend you credit. If you happen to find a lender, your interest rate could reach 25 per cent or more.”
This is just not true! A person can rebuild his or her credit in as little as two years by following various proven techniques. If a person has established a good history of debt repayment after bankruptcy and has a reliable and steady income and NO DEBT, that person will be able to get credit.
ERROR #3: Province article, paragraph # 5: “One possibility is an orderly payment of debts, a formal arrangement made through credit-counselling services.”
Once again this is just plain wrong! BC does not have an Orderly Payment of Debt Program. It was shut down in 2001 or 2002 after the Liberals took power from the NDP. The provinces with an Orderly Payment of Debt program are Alberta, Saskatchewan, and PEI.
Another serious and misleading comment is that orderly payment of debt arrangements are made through credit counselling services. Once again this is just plain wrong! Credit counsellors DO NOT perform this service. For more about credit counsellors and what they do please refer to this site.
ERROR #4: Province article, paragraph # 7: “With help from a credit-counselling service or on your own, you can try to negotiate a settlement offer with creditors. By outlining the reasons for your financial disarray and proposing a one-time payment to settle your debt — based on a reasonable percentage of the amount owing — creditors may be willing to take it and cut their losses.”
This is misleading and wrong! If a debtor has enough money to make a lump sum payment the creditors will not accept this amount in full settlement of their debts. They would want this amount plus future payments from income. The best and perhaps only chance a lump sum payment has in settling a debt is to have a relative (for example) put up the lump sum payment on condition of the creditors accepting this amount or having the debtor file bankruptcy. This works best if done as a proposal through a trustee.
ERROR #5: Province article, paragraph # 11: “A consumer proposal has advantages over a bankruptcy. It allows you to repay only a percentage of your total unsecured debts without interest and retain all your personal belongings.”
This is misleading as it suggests that people going into bankruptcy do not retain all their assets. People filing a proposal or bankruptcy have exactly the same rights to retain assets. The assets that are kept in a bankruptcy or a proposal are set by the provinces and are given at this site.
ERROR #6: Province article, paragraph # 13: “.. you can declare personal bankruptcy. It must be done through a bankruptcy trustee for a flat fee of $1,800.”
This is misleading and wrong! A bankrupt must make payments based on his income and family obligations in accordance with Surplus Income Standards set by the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy.
In all provinces but Alberta the minimum to be paid over 9 months is $1,665. This can be paid over the 9 months of the bankruptcy.
ERROR #7: Province article, paragraph # 17: “You remain in bankruptcy for nine months, after which you receive a court document called a “discharge of bankruptcy” that must be filed with both national credit agencies (Equifax and Transunion). Your credit rating will once again become R7 and the bankruptcy will remain on your file for seven years.”
More misinformation! The Certificate of Discharge is not exclusively a court document. In the vast majority of cases the Certificate of Discharge is prepared by the trustee at the 9th month.
The article suggests that the debtor must file the Certificate of Discharge with the credit bureaus. In fact, the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy advises the credit bureaus of the discharge of the bankrupt.
Finally, the fact of a bankruptcy stays on a person’s credit bureau report for 6 years after the discharge; NOT 7 YEARS!
May 10th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
I too was concerned about this article. I do not believe it presented a balanced review of options available to individuals in financial difficulty.
I share many of the concerns which have already been presented here. In addition, I believe the following facts should be pointed out.
Informal arrangements with creditors are fraught with difficulties and can lead to further complications if not done properly. A Trustee in Bankruptcy is the only professional that can ensure an individual receives protection from their creditors while formulating their repayment plan.
Consumer Proposals can be made to secured creditors, as well as unsecured creditors. There is no minimum amount that must be offered such as the twenty percent that is suggested in the article. The creditors must simply be better off in the proposal than they would be in a bankruptcy.
Although a Consumer Proposal is reflected on your credit report for three years from completion, the majority of Consumer Proposals I have handled have been fulfilled in much less than the five years suggested in the article. Therefore, an individual’s credit report may be cleaned up sooner than if they continued to make minimum monthly payments.
Consumer Proposals, once approved, are binding on all creditors, not just those that consented to the proposal.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:12 am
I declared bankruptcy in 2004. I was discharged in Feb 205 and the Trustee was discharded in Sept 2005. I have been in a dispute with CRA since 2002 over my 2002 taxes. In Jan 2007 CRA agreed with me and I was provided a refund. CRA sent the refund to the Trustee in error. The Trustee has refused to forward the refund to me claiming it is a Pre-Bankruptcy asset.
CRA rules dictate that all refunds go to the client if both the client and the trustee have been discharged.
1. Can the Trustee claim this refund after they have been discharged?
2. Under what authority can they claim the refund?
Thanks,
Jim
September 18th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
I was discharged from bankruptcy in october 2001.This was because of divorse.Again in 2006 because of very bad financial situation i had no choice but to file a consumer proposal.Please give me information on how step by step i can again have good credit .I understand that i must be patient.I just want to get my life back in order.Thankyou